Long Grove Plan Commission

June 9, 2003 Meeting Minutes

 

 

Commissioners present: Camy Gould, Robert Jenkins, Fred Phillips, Joseph Di Iorio, Michael Dvorak, Lisa Phillips, Nicholas Fasano, and Ed Acuna

 

Commissioners Absent: None

 

Also Present: Village Manager David Lothspeich, Village Superintendent Robert Block, Consultant Planner Lane Kendig and Village Planner Edmond Cage

 

1.         CALL TO ORDER

Commissioner Fasano motioned to appoint Fred Phillips as Chairman Pro-tem, seconded by Commissioner Phillips.  Ayes, all.  Nays, none, motion carried.

 

Chair Pro-tem Phillips called the meeting to order at 8:05 p.m.

 

2.         MINUTES OF April 1, 2003 and May 6, 2003

The April 1, 2003 and May 6, 2003 minutes was approved with some minor changes.  Commissioner Fassano motioned, Commissioner Gould seconded.  Ayes, all.  Nays, none, motion carried.

 

3.         Public Hearing for the Consideration of the Following Requests for the Mill Pond Shoppe’s in Long Grove (Currently the Pond View Inn Restaurant): (1) Text Amendment to Allow Businesses in the B-1 Historic Business District to Exceed 5,000 Square Feet as Permitted Special Uses; (2) Special Use to Expand the Existing Restaurant by 690 Square Feet to the North, with the Resulting Total Square Footage of the Building Exceeding 5,000 Square Feet; (3) Special Use for the Addition of a 644 Square Foot Deck on the West Side of Building (Adjacent to the Existing Covered Walkway); (4) Special Use to Allow an 135 Square Foot Cooler to the East of the Existing Building; and (5) Special Use for Outdoor Dining on the Existing Covered Walkway and Proposed Deck, Located at 235 Robert Parker Coffin Road, Submitted by Miriam and Sherman Gerber.  Referred to the Commission From the February 25, 2003 Board of Trustees Meeting.  Public Hearing Set During the March 4, 2003 Meeting.

 

            Petitioners Sherman and Miriam Gerber were present.                                             

           

            Mr. Gerber provided a visual presentation of the plans for Long Grove Café in the Mill Pond complex and recapped their requests.  A Special Use Permit was required to allow for a 675 square foot building addition and a 644 square foot patio for the purpose of outdoor dining.  The changes to the plans were highlighted. 

 

            The dumpster on the east side of the building would remain the same and one dumpster on the west side of the building would be eliminated.  The parking lot lighting was illustrated on a plan submitted by Idaho Wood and would include 7 fixtures consisting of incandescent 165 watt bulbs that would be shielded from the neighboring properties.  These lights would be on a timer and would be timed to turn off after the restaurant was closed.  The petitioner stated that the neighboring property owners would only be able to see the warm glow of these lights positioned in the parking lot.   The petitioner discussed the automobile lights within the parking lot.  As the parking lot is on a slope, that drops down towards the retention pond the automobile headlights would be directed downwards towards the pond and not the neighboring properties.  The petitioner stated that the neighboring residences were approximately 10 to 15 feet higher than the pond elevation, therefore headlight glare would not be a problem for the neighbors.

 

            A new fountain/aerator had been added to the pond to act as a noise buffer between the outdoor dining patio and the neighboring properties.  There was also some discussion on the proposed landscaping the petitioner was planning to install at this location.  To the north of the addition, 15 x 24” Pfitzer Junipers, 13 x 30” Arrowwood Viburnum and 1 x 2” Eastern Redbud were proposed.  To the west of the addition, 18 x 24” Pfitzer Junipers, 14 x 30” Arrowwood Viburnum and 1 x 3” Freeman Maple were proposed.  The roofline of the proposed addition had been modified in response to some previous concerns and the intention was to match the existing roofline.   The outdoor dining patio was to be buffered by the fountain/aerator, which was installed to create a “waterfall” sound to block conversational sounds.  The petitioner stated that they would not seat anyone on the outdoor dining patio after 8:30p.m.

 

            Staff raised the issue of installing some landscaping between the circular drive and the retention pond.  Commissioner Fasano recommended that some additional landscaping be positioned between parking space numbers 7 through 20 as a buffer.  The petitioner stated that they will add landscaping to this area.  Commissioner Gould had some concerns about the dumpster enclosures including the frequency of pick-ups and adequate screening.  The petitioner stated that they were not convinced that these proposed changes to the dumpster enclosures would increase the number of garbage pick-ups.  The hours of operation for the outdoor dining patio was discussed, and different closing hours were proposed for the patio on weekend nights as opposed to week nights.  Commissioner Phillips stated her concern about placing too many limitations on the restaurant would jeopardize the financial viability of the business.

 

            Commissioner Acuna was in agreement with the additional proposed landscaping and limiting the proposed hours for the outdoor dining patio.  He recommended that the Special Use Permit include provisions that the Village Board may revoke or not renew the outdoor dining license if the licensee fails to comply with the recommended conditions of approval.  Chairman Phillips recommended that the fountain/aerator be operated on a timer and be timed to shut down at a specific time.  He also stated that the petitioner should be willing to add landscaping to the north side of the retention pond if it becomes an issue with the neighboring property owners.  The petitioner agreed and would work with the neighbors to achieve this.  Chairman Phillips stated that no music or amplified sound be allowed outside the restaurant and the petitioner agreed to this condition.

 

            Chair Pro-tem Phillips then opened the public hearing to the audience.  The following residents spoke:

 

            George St. John, 3137 RFD had concerns about the re-sale value of his residence.  Photos of the property were passed out to the Plan Commission to indicate the concerns.  The major concern was the blocking of noise and illumination from the proposed outdoor dining patio.

 

            Tom Panton, 4101 RFD expressed concerns about the size of the dumpsters.  The proposed addition and outdoor dining patio would double the amount of garbage and the dumpster areas were too small to accommodate this additional garbage.  He stated that there was continually garbage on the property and the dumpsters should be covered.

 

            The restaurant operator stated that the increase in restaurant hours and size would not necessarily double the amount of garbage at this location.  A better solution would be to increase the size of the dumpster and increase the amount of garbage pick-ups. 

 

            The restrictions that the Plan Commission felt appropriate to limit the outdoor dining patio to were:

1.       Limit the closing hours for the outdoor dining patio to 9:30p.m. Sunday through Thursday nights inclusive and 10:30p.m. on Friday and Saturday nights.

2.       No music or amplified sound would be permitted outside of the restaurant.

3.       The fountain/aerator would be timed to shut down with the parking lot lights.

4.       Garbage pick up would be scheduled regularly and the dumpster enclosure to the east would be covered in an appropriate manner.

5.       The parking lot lighting was approved with shields and would be timed to shut off one hour after the closing of the restaurant or midnight at the latest.

6.       The Special Use Permit would be revocable if the Village found the facility to be in violation of any of the approved conditions and/or any Village Codes.

7.       The Landscape Plan would be revised to include additional landscaping materials between the parking lot cul-de-sac and the retention pond as directed by the Architectural Review Board. If not specified differently by this group then at the time of planting there would be a combination of 5-foot on center non-deciduous and 3-foot on center deciduous plantings to block automobile headlights from the facilities parking lot to the neighboring properties.

8.       The use of the patio would be restricted to full service sit-down dining only.  The use of the outdoor dining patio as a waiting area or for receptions or cocktail parties would be prohibited.

  1. No more than eight tables and a total of 32 seats shall be maintained and used on the patio at any given time.    

            Commissioner Phillips motioned that the Plan Commission recommend approval of the Special Use permit to allow for the construction and operation of a 644 square foot outdoor dining patio located to the west side of the existing building located at 235 Robert Parker Coffin Road subject to the nine conditions listed above, Commissioner Di Iorio seconded.  Ayes, all.  Nays, none, motion carried.

 

4.         Continued Public Hearing for the Consideration of a Request for a Special Use Permit, Text Amendment and And/Or Additional Relief Necessary And/Or Appropriate Under The Zoning Code To Install a Second Cellular Monopole and Related Equipment on the Christ’s Church Property, Located at 5105 Arlington Heights Road, Submitted by Voice Stream Wireless.  Public Hearing Date of February 4, 2003 set during the December 3, 2002 meeting.

 

Acknowledging the Petitioner had requested a continuation to allow more time to prepare the information required by the Plan Commission. The Petitioner had changed for this request and the new Petitioner was not present at the meeting. Commissioner Gould motioned to postpone the public hearing and send out the appropriate revised notices, Commissioner Fasano seconded.  Ayes, all.  Nays, none, motion carried.

 

5.         Public Hearing for Amendment(s) to The Existing Planned Unit Development and/or Special Use Ordinance for a 720 Sq. Ft. Addition to the North Side of the Existing Church Located at 1660 Checker, Submitted by Hope Lutheran Church.

 

            The petitioner discussed explained the request for the storage addition.  The petitioner indicated that the larger tree illustrated in the distributed picture would not be removed, a smaller tree would possibly have to be relocated with the construction of the storage addition.  There was a point of clarification that the original PUD was limited to a maximum lot coverage of 36%.  The petitioner acknowledged that the maximum allowable lot coverage is 40,938 square feet and the proposed used lot coverage is 39,131 square feet.  Michael Robinson from Lane Kendig’s office discussed the shared parking agreement and discussed the parking count at this location

 

            Commissioner Gould motioned that the Plan Commission recommend approval of the PUD Amendment and Special Use permit to allow a 720 square foot storage addition to the north side of the existing Church building located at 1660 Checker subject to the condition that the materials used for the construction of the addition match the existing Church building, Commissioner Acuna seconded.  Ayes, all.  Nays, none, motion carried.

 

6.         Consideration of an Amendment(s) to The Existing Planned Unit Development Ordinance For Permission to Utilize a Portion of the Basement for a Banquet Room for the Gridley’s of Long Grove Restaurant Located at 4868 Route 83, Submitted by George Callas.

 

            Petitioner George Calas of Gridley's of Long Grove Restaurant were present.  Mr. Calas stressed that the banquet facility was an important factor in his success and that the proposed facility would be used approximately 3-4 times per month.  Discussion of proposed banquet facility centered on the need for increased square footage and parking.  Commissioner Gould raised concerns with the potential increase in maximum floor area, parking and the precedent this would set.  George Callas indicated the request was due in nature to the additional unforeseen costs associated with the new building.  Planner Kendig stated that the Plan Commission had previously rejected the banquet facility and the previous approval of the project clearly prohibits the use of the basement for anything other than storage.  The petitioner’s architect calculated the size of the proposed basement area to be 1,752 square feet for use as a banquet facility.  Therefore making the overall square footage of the building approximately 6,361 total square feet in size.  The Plan Commission sympathized with the petitioner in this case, however, the Plan Commission had an overriding concern with the dangers of setting a precedent with such an approval. 

 

            Commissioner Gould recommended a motion to deny a portion the utilization of the basement for a banquet facility, seconded by Commissioner Fasano.  Ayes, Gould, Acuna, Phillips, Fasano, Jenkins, Dvorak, Chairman Phillips.  Nays, Di Iorio, motion carried.

 

7.         Request to Set a Public Hearing for a Text Amendment and Special Use Permit to Operate a Day Care Center for Approximately 22 Children within the existing Residence Located at 25836 W.Route 83 (Lot #29 Towner Subdivision), Submitted by Dmitriy Makhovik.

 

Elliott Hartstein was present and discussed the potential project.  The property with the existing residence is located across from the Crown Plaza and adjacent to the Ramada.  The property is zoned B-2 Suburban Business District.  The petitioner plans to retain 3 full-time and 1 part-time employee.  The proposed day care facility would serve up to a maximum of 22 children.  The petitioner has indicated that they will provide 8 parking spaces, of which 2 would be used for staff, and the other full-time staff member would park within the existing garage.  This would leave 6 parking spaces available to parents for dropping off their children.  The petitioner stated that from their experience that the 3 employees would arrive at this facility prior to 7am each day and that one third of the children (7-8 cars) would be dropped off at this facility between the hours of 7am-8am and the remaining two thirds of the children (14-15 cars) would be dropped off between the hours of 8am-9am.

 

The petitioner stated that they would be willing to install additional fencing in between the proposed playground and the rear property line.  Michael Robinson from Lane Kendig’s office presented his June 9, 2003 memorandum concerning parking, fencing, buffering, fire lanes and septic system capacity.

 

Commissioner Dvorak suggested expanding the parking area for easier access to this property and keeping the sight lines clear of landscaped material along Route 83 for ingress and egress to this property.  Commissioner Acuna also questioned how many days of the week the proposed facility would be in operation and whether this would include the weekend or not.  Commissioner Phillips commented in regards to The Department of Children and Family Services (DCFS) what are the appropriate fire and safety codes for such a potential use and does the DCFS have regulations specifically on the drop-off and pick-up of children from day car facilities.

 

Commissioner Gould had a number of queries and concerns on this potential petition in regards to signage, parking – whether it should be angled parking for easier access, Radon issues/concerns that Commissioner Phillips also had concerns with, would any trees be removed, would the well be a community well or individual well, how often would the facility be inspected and by whom, would the use be specific to this user, toilet facilities, financial information & background information on the facility operators, proposed fees, clientele and does it comply with subdivision regulations.

 

It was recommended that a scaled site plan be submitted for this property with the associated improvements indicated and that the neighboring properties and buildings be illustrated on such a site plan.

 

Superintendent Block indicated that the property had an address of 7155 RFD.

 

Commissioner Phillips motioned to publish a public hearing notice for the July 1, 2003 meeting, Commissioner Gould seconded.  Ayes, all.  Nays, none, motion carried.

 

8.         Planner's Report - no report

 

9.         New Business  Next Special Meeting - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 8:00 p.m.

                                      Next Regular Meeting - Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 8:00 p.m.

 

10.       Adjournment

 

            Motion to adjourn by Commissioner Acuna, seconded by Commissioner Dvorak.

 

            Meeting adjourned at 11:59 p.m.

 

 

 

Respectfully submitted by,

 

Edmond Cage

Village Planner

Village of Long Grove