VILLAGE OF LONG GROVE
Long Grove Plan Commission

September 4, 2007 Meeting Minutes

 

Commissioners Present: Jeff Kazmer, Wendy Parr, Shelly Rubin, Tobin Fraley, Charles Cohn

 

Chairman present: Fred Phillips

 

Also present: Village Planner James Hogue, Planning Commission Secretary Terri Taylor, Village Attorney Julie Tappendorf

 

Also present in the audience: Village President Maria Rodriguez, Village Trustee Ed Acuna and two members of the public.

 

  1. Call to Order: Chariman Phillips called the meeting to order at 8:05 p.m.

 

  1. Public Hearing: Consideration of a proposal for various amendments to the Village Code for the Village of Long Grove, Title 5, Zoning Regulations including without limitation modifications to the maximum floor area, building height and other regulations within the Village of Long Grove, Illinois.

 

Four audience members were sworn in.

 

Attorney Julie Tappendorf began the discussion by reviewing the
Zoning Code Issues memorandum (dated July 12, 2007) that summarizes the issues at hand and presents recommendations for further modifications to the Zoning Code.

 

First topic reviewed in the memo was “Maximum Floor Area.” The issue of “too big, too close” was described as when larger homes on smaller lots are clustered together. The first recommendation for controlling this in the future is the “Consideration off Two Separate Formulae for Calculating Maximum Floor Area.” A current formula exists, but a second stricter formula could be added that would apply to any lot within a PUD that does not meet one or more of the setback requirements.

 

Discussion of topic ensued with clarification of the “lots under 1 acre” reference.

 

Attorney Tappendorf presented the second recommendation for control of “Maximum Floor Area”. The Village could “Consider Establishing Minimum Setbacks in PUDs”.  By setting minimums, the village could only allow modifications presented by builders that would fall within an “absolute” setback minimum or other limitation.

 

A third recommendation was presented for control of “Maximum Floor Area”. The Village could “Consider Establishing Minimum Lot Area for Lots in PUDs”. Establishing this would prevent developers from requesting modifications that fell below the minimum area requirement.

 

Commissioner Fraley looked to confirm that this concept would, in fact keep development in Long Grove rather than pushing away potential developments to other communities.

 

Discussion moved on to the second topic of concern which is “Large Homes on Any Lot” and how modifications could be made to control the bulk of large homes in general. Areas for recommendation include: 1. Basements with Exposed Lower Levels, 2. Habitable Attic Space, and 3. Exclusion of a Portion of Wetlands and Conservancy Areas.

 

Attorney Tappendorf reviewed each topic as outlined in the memorandum.

 

Recommendations to change how various definitions of basements are distinguished was presented. A new formula using the amount of exposed lower level would be used.

 

A definition of “habitable attic space” was also presented due to a lack of prior definition. A specific height would trigger the home to contain “habitable attic space”.

 

Tom Macintosh (2562 RFD) brought up his concern over potential attic remodels after a home met zoning codes when it was originally built.

 

A third recommendation regarding “Large homes on Any Lot” covered the “Exclusion of a Portion of Wetlands and Conservancy Areas” when determining the maximum floor area of a proposed home was discussed.  The new formula used would result in smaller homes with more non-buildable areas.

 

Trustee Acuna was concerned over the language regarding density bonuses in the memo. Discussion with board ensued. He also had a question regarding the amount of space being considered for the exposed basement.

 

Chairman Phillips  points out that an ultimate goal of all the recommendations is not to penalize PUDs with too many restrictions.

 

A final topic was presented by Attorney Tappendorf regarding the Public Assembly Regulations and the possibility of an institution parceling out it’s facilities among multiple adjoining lots. An amendment could be made to require a minimum distance between public assembly uses on a block.

 

Many questions and concerns over teardowns and remodels were brought up by board members and clarifications by Attorney Tappendorf were made throughout the presentation. Examples of how other suburban communities have handled the issues were shared by her as well.

 

Many members felt that it was important to consider how many existing homes would be affected by all of these changes and that a review of existing setbacks, FAR’s  and so forth would be necessary to be able to determine the appropriate new zoning code recommendations. Village President Maria Rodriguez indicated  that continued discussion over these issues was necessary and a new ordinace  covering this topic would be brought to the Village Board to discuss further and possibly refer back to the PCZBA for additional consideration.

 

It was also suggested that due to significant discussion over the amendment language anticipated regarding the issues identified in the zoning code memorandum, that additional amendments would be necessary before the new recommendations could be approved. Commissioner Rubin asked that a committee be formed with PCZBA and Village Trustees to discuss issues and amending language further before bringing back to the PCZBA for a vote. All members approved the request.

 

Commissioner Parr volunteered to serve on the committee. All Commissioners recommended that Commissioner DiIorio also serve on the committee.

 

Chairman Phillips made a motion; seconded by _______ to continue the public hearing regarding the topics until the next meeting of the Planning Commission and Board of Appeals on October 2, 2007. On a voice vote; all aye.

 

  1. Approval of Minutes for June 5, 2007 and August 7, 2007

 

Commissioner Parr made a motion; seconded by_________ to approve the minutes from both meetings.  On a voice vote; all aye.

 

  1. Adjournment

 

Commissioner Parr made a motion to adjourn; seconded by ___________ to adjourn the meeting. All ayes no nays. Meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.

 

  1. Other Business

 

Chairman Philips indicated that he would not be present at the next scheduled meeting. He suggested that a Commissioner who had not yet served as a “Chairman Pro-Tem” consider serving in his absence. 

 

  1. Next Scheduled meeting – October 2, 2007

 

 

Respectfully Submitted,

 

Terri Taylor

 

Secretary,

Long Grove PCZBA