VILLAGE OF
LONG GROVE
Long Grove Plan Commission & Zoning Board of Appeals (LGPCZBA)
October 2,
2007 Meeting Minutes
Commissioners Present: Jeff Kazmer, Wendy Parr, Joe DiIorio, Shelly Rubin, Robert Jenkins, Tobin Fraley, Charles Cohn
Chairman Pro-Tem: Shelly Rubin
Also present: Village Planner James Hogue, Planning Commission Secretary Terri Taylor, Village Attorney Julie Tappendorf
Also present in the audience: two members of the public
Attorney Tappendorf presented the draft copy of Ordinance No. 2007-_ : An Ordinance Amending Various Provisions of Title 5 (Zoning Regulations) of the Long Grove Village Code. She pointed out that the most recent draft changes were called out in the document using bold italic for reference.
Chairman Pro-Tem Rubin suggested that each changed item be presented/discussed and then voted upon individually after completion of the discussion for that item. On a voice vote; all aye.
Under Amendment to Section 5-3-12, Attorney Tappendorf noted that a typographical error under (B) would be corrected to read (acres) and not (square feet).
Attorney Tappendorf read aloud the proposed amendment to Section 5-3-12, (G), 6, i; regarding the calculation of Maximum Floor Area for lots that meet current setbacks.
There was some discussion over how the wetlands automatically create limits to the setbacks without the additional exclusion verbiage.
Commissioner Parr stated that Trustee Acuna had asked for this content to be added.
Attorney Tappendorf said that this draft reflected any adjustments made during the interim meeting attended by Commissioners DiIorio and Parr.
Discussion moved on to the next recommendation.
Attorney Tappendorf read aloud the proposed amendment to Section 5-3-12, (G), 6, ii; regarding the calculation of Maximum Floor Area for lots that do not meet setbacks.
She said Trustee Hannon specifically wanted the PCZBA to discuss the italicized content contained in this part of the amendment. There was concern over whether the exclusion of 50% of wetlands and conservancy district areas should apply to all lots. She said that the stricter formula would not apply to existing lots with homes. She referred to the language in the amendment.
Discussion took place regarding grandfathering and the potential for disgruntled homeowners should this amendment be approved.
Attorney Tappendorf read aloud the proposed amendment to Subsection 5-11-18(E), 2, (i) – regarding space between buildings as well as building boxes in PUDs. The minimum distance between building boxes as well as the minimum distance between a platted building box and the adjacent right of way were missing from the draft copy. She stated that Bob Block would be providing the numbers.
Chairman Pro-tem Rubin motioned to approve, although data was pending. Discussion took place regarding the missing data. Attorney Tappendorf said it would be possible to approve this recommendation during the meeting, then the data could be added by Bob Block and if the PCZBA found concern with the numbers submitted, a written comment could be sent to the Board prior to their meeting for approval. On a voice vote; all aye.
Attorney Tappendorf read aloud the proposed amendment to Subsection 5-11-18(E), 2, (m) 1. – Residential District Density. The recommendation would be that new lots within a PUD are no smaller than one acre. Chairman Pro-tem Rubin motioned to approve. On a voice vote; all aye.
Commissioner DiIorio asked how a subdivision like The Fields would have worked out under this new district density formula. Attorney Tappendorf indicated that they could then utilize annexation and special circumstances.
Attorney Tappendorf read aloud the proposed amendment to Subsection 5-11-18(G): Authority to Vary Regulations, #2. These regulations would provide limits regarding variations that will not be authorized.
Some data was missing from the items 2a and 2c. Discussion took place resulting in the recommendation by Village Planner Hogue and Attorney Tappendorf that item 2a contain a percentage and not a specified amount of feet. They recommended 25% for 2a. Item 2c was recommended to be 22 feet by the village engineer.
Discussion took place regarding roadway width in general.
Two audience members, Melanie Seuss
of 3434 RFD and Pierre Deorio of 405
Melanie Seuss expressed concern over the narrow roadways in her Long Grove neighborhood.
Commissioner Rubin asked if there was a motion to approve. Commissioner Cohn motioned to approve the proposed amendment as it would read with data added. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Jenkins. On a voice vote; all aye.
Attorney Tappendorf then read aloud the proposed amendment to Section 5-12-13 regarding changes to some definitions within the Long Grove Zoning Regulations.
Pierre Deorio asked whether the changes to the definition for Exposed Basement would affect existing homes. Attorney Tappendorf responded that “yes” the way the new definition is written would affect existing homes. Deorio expressed concern that this would be going back on existing rules from the time homes were built. Attorney Tappendorf explained that individual PUDs may have been originally been approved using different conditions, but could not comment fully without the proper paperwork.
Discussion took place due to concern over the homes that would become nonconforming upon approval of this amendment.
Commissioner DiIorio motioned to recommend that verbiage be rewritten to grandfather existing buildings for additions or existing walk-out basements so they would not become non-conforming upon approval of this amendment. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Jenkins. On a voice vote 5 ayes, 4 nays (Commissioners Cohn, Fraley, Kazmer, and Rubin). Motion carried.
The Commission had not voted on the first amendment (regarding maximum floor area) discussed at the beginning of the meeting, so Chairman Pro-Tem Rubin brought discussion back to this topic. Commissioner Jenkins motioned for this to go back to the Board, seconded by Commissioner Kazmer. On a voice vote all ayes to send this back to the Board for their decision. No recommendation by the PCZBA on this amendment.
Attorney Tappendorf presented the amendment to Section 5-9-12, regarding “ Public Assemblies” in which the Minimum Distance between Public Assembly Uses, would now read …within 750 feet of another public assembly… On a voice vote, all ayes.
Commissioner
Fraley motioned to approve the minutes; seconded by Commissioner Parr. On a voice vote; all aye,
two abstentions (Commissioners DiIorio and Jenkins
who had not been present at that meeting).
Village
Planner Hogue asked if the Commission needed to consider moving the upcoming
December 4 meeting to December 3 due to Hanukkah. The Commission felt it was
not necessary.
Commissioner
Jenkins made a motion to adjourn; seconded by Chairman Pro-Tem Rubin. All ayes no nays. Meeting was adjourned at 9:57 p.m.
Respectfully
Submitted,
Terri
Taylor
Secretary,
Long Grove PCZBA